When should you race on the street Options

[mrmopartech]

First topic of this section is when you should or should not race on the street,and the affects,mrmopartech

[SpeedRacer]

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[Caracer]

No excuse for it EVER!

[SpeedRacer]

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[DartKnight]

Street-racing is what ALL musclecars were made for, but only when no harm can come to any other motorists or pedestrians. I have more on this, but I want to read some other replys first. Later, Speed

Although I would like to, I don't really agree with that statement 100%. It's contradicting because, although musclecars were built for primarily performance use, and were obviously raced on the street quite a bit (even by their designers and engineers, according to many accounts), the fact is that you can't really street race anywhere without some kind of potential for harm to other drivers or pedestrians. Ok, maybe in the middle of Montana or Nevada...

[mrmopartech]

The whole idea comes down to this,when is it 100%safe to do it.Now I might have done this in the past,OK,last summer me and two freinds did a all out blast at 155-160 coming back from a car show to my place on a 7KM straight road.Now no one was on the road and we used our brain and just did a all out blast to top end the cars.The problem is attitude in the driving.How many people that are going to read this have seen f in A/Holes driving cars in and out of city traffic like the world is going to end in ten minutes,we all have.By the law,you are never to do it,real world,it happens every day if the conditions are good and the person behind the wheel is normal.here lies the problem,who is and who is not normal behind a wheel of a performance car?I run a dodge ram to work,drive my 65 chrysler as a crusier,and the my pro street 68 clone dart hemi dart.Now any of these can be a 3000lbs+ killing machine in the wrong hands,agreed,but I use common sence,as to when and where.My buddy goes out of town alot and comes to the house and says,adjust the valves and take it for a blast and beat the piss out of it to see if any thing is wrong.This is a lowered 74 formula,with a 498 big block and 600+hp,the average street car,and never a problem,why,ATTITUDE to the car and respect to the area and other drivers.Now lets see the comments of others wheather to the right or the left of this statement,all opinions are wlcomed,mrmopartech

[SpeedRacer]

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[DartKnight]

Back in the 60's and early 70's the engineers at Chrysler, Ford, GM, and AMC all street-raced in Detroit to see who could build the fastest cars. Having the fastest car on the street in Detroit was always a Mopar tradition.

And "factory drag teams" like the Ramchargers and Golden Commandos; nothing even close to that these days.

[19duster74]

I will weigh in as never okay to street race anymore. It used to be the thing to do back in my teenage years. We would cruise every weekend and have short "races" but never out of control. I am not aware of any areas to legally cruise in the Phoenix area where I live. In Phoenix there is just to much traffic, the roads are always busy night and day. I think the real problem is with todays society. There just does not seem to be a sense of responsibilty and family values that there used to be. It seems to me that today there is less value placed on life and careing for others and more of a "I'm going to do what I want to do" attitude. When you put this attitude in the drivers seat of an automobile it is dangerous. I have seen todays musclecar equivalent, what I call "Rice Racers" speeding down the street, weaving in and out of traffic, just plain recklessness. When we used to race it would be "straight line" for a couple blocks. We wouldn't be weaving in and out putting others at risk. I call todays driving influenced driving. Is because of the movies ie: Fast and Furious, or video games where crashing into things is fun, no consequences, just hit reset and keep playing. I don't know, it just does not seem the same as it used to be. Maybe it is just me getting old........... Street Racing is Never Okay.

We are fortunate to have a local dragstrip (Firebird Raceway) that allows what they call Highschool Drags on Friday nights. This gives a safe and organized way to have some freindly competition without real strict rules. I do not think it is that popular though, I know Firebird has tried this several times and it never seems to last to long.

Just my two cents worth. And it is true, you just don't see older musclecars on the streets anymore. It is a rarity around here. If you do see one it is an older fart like me that is babying it, I have to much $$$$ and time invested to risk an accident and sure don't need a ticket....

[DartKnight]

It's not worth it here in San Diego, anyway. The local cops have their own division called the DragNet; they are specially-trained officers employed to crack down on street racing. If they catch you, your car will sit in mandatory 30-day impound and rack up fees, or you will lose it altogether depending on the situation. They are also trained to spot hidden nitrous systems, illegal fuel and exhaust mods, etc.

[SpeedRacer]

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[mischiefdart]

It is a different world today than it was 25 years ago when I was in my teens. Even by the time I was in my mid twenties way before the fast and the furious came out I could see it would not last. There were plenty of go fast movies made in the sixties and seventies to corrupt young minds. I enjoyed going to Front Street in south Philly for a few years but the younger kids just seemed to get more and more out of control. The quality of car being raced also declined. I would never street race today. I would rather run a prepped track with timing equipment than take the risk of loosing my liscence or having an accident. And by the way these so called "tuners" are a real nuisance where I live.

[wheels]

O.K., Iam at a traffic light at 2 am. and the street is absolutly deserted. Some punk kid pulls up beside Me with his little toy rice burner. I give him a couple of short revs from my blown hemi powered, whatever body style you want. Now lets see if the little puke wants to run. Just my 2 cents.

[wheels]

O.K., Iam at a traffic light at 2 am. and the street is absolutly deserted. Some punk kid pulls up beside Me with his little toy rice burner. I give him a couple of short revs from my blown hemi powered, whatever body style you want. Now lets see if the little puke wants to run. Just my 2 cents.

Just to clear up any confusion, I dont think you should race on the street if there is any possibility of an innocent by-stander getting hurt. This kinda eliminates street racing all together because unless you have superpowers, you dont know what is up ahead at the next intersection.

[Moparmagic]

NEVER......PERIOD!! And I'll tell you why. Every single time a pair of street racers crash out here in Arizona it never fails that the Mesa Tribune publishes a story with a headline that reads:

"Drag Racers Kill Innocent Family of 4"

Dammit!! Two stupid punks who are almost always in annoying "bag full of wet hornets" 4 cylinder jellybean rice burners or the dime-a-dozen 80s 5.0 Mustang "street race" and crash killing everyone. The newspaper calls it "Drag Racing" and it always gives the legit drag racers like myself a bad name. I can't tell you how many times I've written to the paper and asked them to publish an apology or a change of title. I've even invited the writer to come to Firebird Racway and watch real drag racers race, and they always ignor me.

Street Racing gives real, NHRA Sanctioned drag racing a bad name. We don't want to be associated with these low on brain power punks.

It is NEVER a good time to "steet race"....ever.

Come out to Firebird instead. I'll let you choose between my 440 70 Cuda Pro Bracket Car or my 360 Magnum powered rear engine Super Comp dragster. I'll give you a FULL tree headstart and still eat you alive by the half track cones.

Geez.....stupid question.....

John C. Hill
Mopar Magic I 70 Cuda 440
Mopar Magic II Super Comp Dragster
Mesa, Arizona

[mike6220]

bought a 74 challenger off ebay,the guy who owned it died in a street race two years earler in another car,this challenger was set-up for street racing,a real sleeper with a 440.i bet the guy wishes he was still alive driving the challenger,keep it on the track where it belongs

[DartKnight]

There is a guy who owns a shop down the street from me, and he used to build some really nasty street cars for people on the side. This dude built some of the nicest cars you ever saw. About 8 years ago, he built some kid a 69 Nova drag car, caged, complete with all the required NHRA safety equipment for the HP range of the car, and the kid ended up wrapping it around a tree 3 days later; died instantly. The guy never built another car again for anyone else after that happened, not even for friends. It's sad, but he just didn't want to contribute to something anymore that could possibly cause someone to lose their life...

[Oldtimer]

Never street race. I lost my liecince back in the 70's for street racing, when I got it back I was over it. I was lucky to not have a fatality. I had a 69 GTX 440 6pak, 4 speed, it was hot. The closest I came to a wreck was when a buddy had a 70 Nova that he had problems shifting. He knew I was good with a 4 speed and asked if I would drive for him against a 455 T/A. Well the T/A jumped the light and was a car length ahead when I hit 2nd gear and the rear differential broke loose from the springs and I went right across the ass end of the T/A. If he wouldn't have jumped I would have hit him broadside. This Nova went down in the ditch on the left and back up on the road and came to a stop off the right side of the road. I about crapped my pants, got out and said "Theres nothing wrong with the tranny".

[wyo340]

The whole idea comes down to this,when is it 100%safe to do it.Now I might have done this in the past,OK,last summer me and two freinds did a all out blast at 155-160 coming back from a car show to my place on a 7KM straight road.Now no one was on the road and we used our brain and just did a all out blast to top end the cars.The problem is attitude in the driving.How many people that are going to read this have seen f in A/Holes driving cars in and out of city traffic like the world is going to end in ten minutes,we all have.By the law,you are never to do it,real world,it happens every day if the conditions are good and the person behind the wheel is normal.here lies the problem,who is and who is not normal behind a wheel of a performance car?I run a dodge ram to work,drive my 65 chrysler as a crusier,and the my pro street 68 clone dart hemi dart.Now any of these can be a 3000lbs+ killing machine in the wrong hands,agreed,but I use common sence,as to when and where.My buddy goes out of town alot and comes to the house and says,adjust the valves and take it for a blast and beat the piss out of it to see if any thing is wrong.This is a lowered 74 formula,with a 498 big block and 600+hp,the average street car,and never a problem,why,ATTITUDE to the car and respect to the area and other drivers.Now lets see the comments of others wheather to the right or the left of this statement,all opinions are wlcomed,mrmopartech

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street race in md. one of the cars out of control killed seven people

[flap]

theres not an absolute reply to any of this , some peoples judgement and opinions are clouded by events such as crashes. by comparison the mentality would be'' flight 191 crashed killing all aboard , lets ban airplanes forever''
common sense aint available in the quantities it used to be. in the old days, there were less folks on the road and usually, anywhere but the city,if someone else was on the road in the wee hours, he was doin the same thing you were.
some idiot killed his friend while cleanin his pistol lets all get stupid and ban guns, teacher paddled my kid and i want him shot
basic case for racin #1 , dont do it town#2 dont do it if theres traffic, #3if theres no one on the road , the roads just sittin there empty and the only one you can kill is yourself- then go for it
now granted , there s a difference between accidental and intentional- so the basic guidelines is this , fi the only one you can hurt is yourself and someone else whos aware of the dangers do it any other time park
i did the race thing back in the 70s and its no different than a cop drivin 90 plus when theres traffic , hes actin a fool but its ok cuz hes got a badge, doesnt matter if he just heard theres a sale at th donut shop
lets outlaw idiots , theres an idea long overdue. as far as ban this ban that , dammit, lets just crawl back up in the trees and throw crap at each other
so.... if you gonna race , do it where ya cant hurt anyone else, use spotters for traffic on both ends of the runway, thy flash the lights , you knock it off. common sense and planning cant be beat,stupidity and carelessness cant be overcome. best comparison? george washington to george bush, and yes i voted for bush to get him the he!! outta texas, i had no idea it would turn out like this ,should we ban voting too?

[rumblefish360]

Well, you shouldn't. But if ya got to, drag it over to an industrail park that is well lit up and empty with wide streets. At least have one person at the start line not racing with a cell phone incase of a crash. Someone should be notified of your body.

[rotobeast]

We always used to drive about 10 miles outside of town where there is this 3 mile straight stretch.
Never any problems.
Granted, there was surely the risk of bad things happening, but it was safer than in town.
Now, I'm much older and the kids in their Honda's are scared of a rumbling 68 Road Runner.

[69roadr]

If we maintain a good reputation in not street racing our American made muscle cars in public places or city streets, we will not be viewed upon as jack-asses. We would like our vehicles to be admired and hearing people say: Damn, i'll bet that thing could really burn rubber! Leave that to the idiots with their slow revving heavy flywheeled cars to do. We do not want to be part of that crowd.

[flap]

that'd be like buyin a shotgun and sayin ''boy ill bet that thing could really take down a dove'' and then never goin huntin. street racing is like anything else , theres a time and a place for it, and the people who screw things up havent a clue as to which is which. if ya dont believe that look at bush clinton bush and the soon to be elected hillbamacain [ sounds like a weather disaster, dont it]

[72scamp]

i agree with the only race if its an empty street. if you can even see the taillights of another car way up the road, check yourself and dont even think of stomping on that pedal. im only 18 and even i have the common sense to know this and i dont have a lot of common sense to begin with. i see other kids weaving in and out of traffic all the time and cant help but think which of these poor innocent people are they going to crash in to? is stupid and recless to do it with any type of traffic around, vehicular or pedestrian. where i live there arent really any open roads where people can open up their cars which unfortunately only perpetuates the thought to do it in traffic and its sad. so my final thought is if you are going to do it do it where there is no trafic or if you are lucky enough to have an open track near you go do it there safely.

[jim77070]

Keep the racing on the track!

I work part-time with the local EMT (Energency Medical Team). About once a month we are at the site of a street race gone wrong. Sad part is it usually involves 1 or more of the following items
1) really nice car that is now nothing but junk
2) a couple of bystanders that don't own cars < these guys never get hurt> who goad others to race on the street, peer pressure...
3) at least one kid in trouble with the law or if htey are lucky just there parents..
4) a trip to the hospital or worse corner
5) typically illegal substances, depending on the decade, use to be just beer and wine, then blue smoke cigerette, now designer drugs

Best thing to do is get with your local drag strip owners and have them offer a "Young Guns Shootout" drag time with reduced entrance fees. Spread the word around to convince the kids that settleing whos car is better disputs are best resolved when you have ALL of your friends there to watch. Even have the local police bring a couple of there cars to the track, one standard cruiser and the other an inteceptor car. Some how the kids like to know they can beat the local car but not the inteceptor.

[superbird74]

I agree that anymore you just can't race on the street. "Back in the day" in rural Ohio we used to find a strech of road with no houses and that wasn't hardly traveled, mark off a quarter mile and run 'em off all night. A few cars got banged up but nobody had to go to the hospital ..or worse. These days there just seems to be so many more people, finding a road that isn't traveled is almost impossible. And finding people that have driving ability and the sense to lift if it gets outa shape is rare. I was in my 440 powered '68 Dart a couple weeks ago when a kid in a rice burner wanted to race. I said no but that kid must have hit one hell of a shot of NOS and went all over the place. I was glad I wasn't beside him. Luckily these days I live 15 minutes from a track so any test and tune nights I'm there. I have to admit that not showing my tailights to the guy in a Z06 Vette the other night was one of the hardest thing I've done in that car.

[MoparChas]

I agree that anymore you just can't race on the street. "Back in the day" in rural Ohio we used to find a strech of road with no houses and that wasn't hardly traveled, mark off a quarter mile and run 'em off all night. A few cars got banged up but nobody had to go to the hospital ..or worse. These days there just seems to be so many more people, finding a road that isn't traveled is almost impossible. And finding people that have driving ability and the sense to lift if it gets outa shape is rare. I was in my 440 powered '68 Dart a couple weeks ago when a kid in a rice burner wanted to race. I said no but that kid must have hit one hell of a shot of NOS and went all over the place. I was glad I wasn't beside him. Luckily these days I live 15 minutes from a track so any test and tune nights I'm there. I have to admit that not showing my tailights to the guy in a Z06 Vette the other night was one of the hardest thing I've done in that car.

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[Chargerjeep]

I live out literally in the middle of nowhere, its all woods out by me. I think that straight line racing on a deserted road is ok; but not the stoplight races and such in the middle of the city or even on a major highway.

[bama-a-body]

I say that if you can get him or her to carry on descent conversation and follow you out to a desserted part of ditch free straight road wax there ass if ya can

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